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who knows what mitt romney is going to suggest at this debate? i wouldn't be surprised to see mitt romney trying to outflank president obama in some way. >> he did it on do oodd-frank. >> and it was counter to the narrative that the obama campaign and frankly a lot of romney's opponents in the primary tried to establish. if the president had to go back to redefining and continuing that narrative about mitt romney but also needs to be giving a full-throated argument as to why his ideology or why his vision for the country is better. >> eliot: another concern romney and the president move forwards some grand bargain argument, they both seem to agree on that, let's take romney who seems to be a better manager and more executive in his demeanor, and you pointed out and chuck schumer pointed out that is the wrong way to go. >> eliot: part of military mitt's argument, i've been governor in massachusetts i'll be able to execute this grand bargain. but chuck schumer said this whole notion that we'll drop rates and create it piece mile through these looph
who knows what mitt romney is going to suggest at this debate? i wouldn't be surprised to see mitt romney trying to outflank president obama in some way. >> he did it on do oodd-frank. >> and it was counter to the narrative that the obama campaign and frankly a lot of romney's opponents in the primary tried to establish. if the president had to go back to redefining and continuing that narrative about mitt romney but also needs to be giving a full-throated argument as to why his...
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and then who won the debate on the economy. romney had the edge. who seemed like the stronger leader romney had the edge. when you ask who won the debate, and asking them where it leads them in terms of their vote are two different things. >> eliot: it's not clear which of those questions are causally linked to the vote. the president tried to do cross-examination on the governor last night, on the issue of the 8 trillion-dollar he calculated 8 trillion-dollar in costs in additional spending by romney. and governor romney has not given us any answers about how he's closing that huge gap, that chasm. can he do that throughout the rest of the campaign. >> i think president obama and democrats are hammering governor romney and paul ryan about that because it is a kind of remarkable thing. they're saying we're going to give everybody marginal tax break cut. be marginal, and we won't tell what you the loops holes are. some of the only loopholes that get through, those are hugely popular deductions. if you did away with them, they would have very negativ
and then who won the debate on the economy. romney had the edge. who seemed like the stronger leader romney had the edge. when you ask who won the debate, and asking them where it leads them in terms of their vote are two different things. >> eliot: it's not clear which of those questions are causally linked to the vote. the president tried to do cross-examination on the governor last night, on the issue of the 8 trillion-dollar he calculated 8 trillion-dollar in costs in additional...
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you can only imagine president obama is waiting to use that line if one of the debates. he'll say governor romney, let me quote your own campaign spokesperson if they lived under your law which you disavowed which came my law they would have had healthcare, why don't you do the sensible thing and support it. what do they do? how do they talk their way out of this one. >> it is an uncomfortable situation. i'm surprised i don't have more e-mails from democratics seizing on these remarks. mitt romney will have to try to move forward. if you notice through the campaign he has not addressed health care in large parcel. he has addressed jobs and getting americans back to work. as he heads up this bus tour, i expect that to continue to be the spin. and romney and staffers will say the point is not about this one statement about the massachusetts healthcare law. it's about about an ad that many people, including reporters political analysts say is out of bounds and factually accurate, and that's what they'll likely focus on. >> eliot: even if the ad had been viewed out of bounds
you can only imagine president obama is waiting to use that line if one of the debates. he'll say governor romney, let me quote your own campaign spokesperson if they lived under your law which you disavowed which came my law they would have had healthcare, why don't you do the sensible thing and support it. what do they do? how do they talk their way out of this one. >> it is an uncomfortable situation. i'm surprised i don't have more e-mails from democratics seizing on these remarks....
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in the vice presidential debate it was the three in the first debate it was really mitt romney and nobody else, so mitt romney had the entire stage. tonight you have a real person a citizen -- somebody whom you have got to interact with. did you ever have a townhall-type debate? >> jennifer: no. i was had a one on one kind of debate. >> eliot: have you in the comedy context? >> we have people called hecklers. but i do think it is very much about performance. and you guys know this way better than i do i think when it comes to a debate of this magnitude words don't matter as much as style and tone. my theory has held true for two debates that the guy who looks like is having the most fun is the guy who wins the debate. >> jennifer: i would say that's right, but his opportunity to speak with clarity about the choice that is before america and that's what i mean by a moral choice -- this is a choice. what kind of country do we want to be? and the president can say there are two fundamentally different positions, do you want trickle down, hands off, or a nation that comes together to make sur
in the vice presidential debate it was the three in the first debate it was really mitt romney and nobody else, so mitt romney had the entire stage. tonight you have a real person a citizen -- somebody whom you have got to interact with. did you ever have a townhall-type debate? >> jennifer: no. i was had a one on one kind of debate. >> eliot: have you in the comedy context? >> we have people called hecklers. but i do think it is very much about performance. and you guys know...
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that we're having, that the president and mitt romney is having every day will solidify when it comes to healthcare for women. the poll numbers we saw at the top of the show verify and validate what we think and mitt romney has become such an etch-a-sketch candidate he stand for nothing and his base is not% with him. >> it's fascinate watching the obama campaign strategy. as someone who writes about women's issues, they're running with the planned parenthooded and running with the fact that romney said planned parenthooded we're going to get rid of that. this new set of ads they've woman who considered herself a pro-life democrat in virginia, the transvaginal ultra sound radicalize her. to say that you can't figure out what romney stands for. >> eliot: on a iconning figure being a victim of those attacks. >> the fact that she had been denied the right to testify. but you had rush limbaugh going days for days. they think this is going to work? go for it. keep calling her a and see where it gets you. >> let's get back to you. the only thing that the romney campaign can hope for is a fun
that we're having, that the president and mitt romney is having every day will solidify when it comes to healthcare for women. the poll numbers we saw at the top of the show verify and validate what we think and mitt romney has become such an etch-a-sketch candidate he stand for nothing and his base is not% with him. >> it's fascinate watching the obama campaign strategy. as someone who writes about women's issues, they're running with the planned parenthooded and running with the fact...
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>>join the debate now. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> eliot: the entirety of mitt romney's economic agenda and the agenda of the republican party led by grover norquist for the past quarter of a century has been to cut marginal tax rates for the wealthy. the elixir that would stimulate growth has become a mantra and give job creators the incentive to invest by cutting their marginal rates. we've seen the failure here at home. gdp and job growth are greater when marginal tax rates are higher throughout the 90s and higher when you go back to world war ii when rates were 90% as opposed to the 35% that we have now. let's compare gdp growth at home to those countries where the marginal tax rates are currently higher. sweden which has the marginal tax rate of 57%. japan, 50%. germany, higher than the 35% here. the growth rates for those countries have been comparable to ours, often exceeding ours. when it comes to unemployment we've had a consistently higher unemployment rate than they have since the cataclysm of 2008. what to conclude from this? one of my favorite sayings in life is to challenge th
>>join the debate now. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> eliot: the entirety of mitt romney's economic agenda and the agenda of the republican party led by grover norquist for the past quarter of a century has been to cut marginal tax rates for the wealthy. the elixir that would stimulate growth has become a mantra and give job creators the incentive to invest by cutting their marginal rates. we've seen the failure here at home. gdp and job growth are greater when marginal tax rates are...
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>> eliot: if there is one thing to be gleaned from monday's debate is the fact that mitt romney will say anything that he thinks will help him get elected. not that this should be a surprise to anyone. over and over again romney advocated against a position that he once held. shockingly, precious little criticism has landed at romney's door step for his weather vane politics. but one voice has called him out on it. charles pierce wrote, i quote, that is what history has always told us about the career of willard romney: sooner or later you'll sell your ass out to the highest bidder and walk away whistling to anything which he feels entitled. in this case that will be the leadership of the free world. joining me now charles pierce, author of "how stupidity became the virtue of the land of the free." thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> eliot: you have criticized romney, but where is the torrent of criticism for his lack of ability to stick to any position. >> i really thought we were going to get to the critical math on the etch-a-sketch when he committed to a date
>> eliot: if there is one thing to be gleaned from monday's debate is the fact that mitt romney will say anything that he thinks will help him get elected. not that this should be a surprise to anyone. over and over again romney advocated against a position that he once held. shockingly, precious little criticism has landed at romney's door step for his weather vane politics. but one voice has called him out on it. charles pierce wrote, i quote, that is what history has always told us...
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the debates. >> romney obviously won so i'm very encouraged. i'm excited about the next debate. >> it's exciting to have a president be dominated. >> did he make a strategic position not to be aggressive in this debate. >> they've got a problem that is going to sustain for the next couple of weeks. >> a lot of americans have been deceived into believing that romney is the better candidate. part of the reason we're angry with president obama is he didn't call out the obvious lies of mitt romney, which were throughout the debate. guys who have been supporting president obama are in absolute panic. new article saying that obama just throws the entire election away. >> so, how do they recover? let's bring in an epic answer for that. ♪ >> all right, michael shureer obviously our prettyical correspondent here. first, one more thing about the panic, michael. listen to nbc. >> internally, they never like to show that anything has changed, that nothing rocks the boat over there but i'm hearing chatter that there's maybe people from the last campaign's
the debates. >> romney obviously won so i'm very encouraged. i'm excited about the next debate. >> it's exciting to have a president be dominated. >> did he make a strategic position not to be aggressive in this debate. >> they've got a problem that is going to sustain for the next couple of weeks. >> a lot of americans have been deceived into believing that romney is the better candidate. part of the reason we're angry with president obama is he didn't call out...
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republican primaries when mitt romney was about to go to debates. but that could be say going into the debate with. we have michael shure and senior editor for the "new republic." i want to run this by you. it looks like romney is in a big load of trouble when it comes do the debates because he does not have much room to attack president obama. am i seeing this wrong? >> no, i think you're right. if i had one major strategic criticism of the romney campaign, they never migrated to the middle of the spectrum. ever since he had to move rights during the primaryies to offset challenges from newt gringrich and rick perry he maintained the base but it's mystifying that he never moved center. i agree with you the guy has boxed himself in on the far right political spectrum, and it's not the place you want to be with a month before the election day. >> cenk: i think moam made a good point the whole idea was that he was more electable. >> newt gringrich forever is saying he's not the most electable because he's being something now that he will not be in the
republican primaries when mitt romney was about to go to debates. but that could be say going into the debate with. we have michael shure and senior editor for the "new republic." i want to run this by you. it looks like romney is in a big load of trouble when it comes do the debates because he does not have much room to attack president obama. am i seeing this wrong? >> no, i think you're right. if i had one major strategic criticism of the romney campaign, they never migrated...
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that helps mitt mitt romney the president was better in the second debate where he was saying mitt romney, specific in your tax plan. can the president shows romney's vagueness again on foreign policy and will that wear thin. >> eliot: can you buy that argument? sometimes i step back and say tell me i'm wrong hasn't the president given us an domestic agenda between the jobs act and what he wants to do in terms of education and infrastructure, there is something there. >> i couldn't agree more. i couldn't disagree more with david. >> eliot: you're giving a dirty look. >> no, i would say that he the president has not articulated it very well. >> he proposed all these things. i'm amazed he has not run more of a harry truman campaign against these guys who have blocked things that could clearly have delivered jobs to americans. he doesn't want to look like he can't get along with these guys because that's a negative for him in the second term. he doesn't say the truth about what is happening here. >> eliot: i think that's true, but there is another hidden trapped door. the republicans turned
that helps mitt mitt romney the president was better in the second debate where he was saying mitt romney, specific in your tax plan. can the president shows romney's vagueness again on foreign policy and will that wear thin. >> eliot: can you buy that argument? sometimes i step back and say tell me i'm wrong hasn't the president given us an domestic agenda between the jobs act and what he wants to do in terms of education and infrastructure, there is something there. >> i couldn't...
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you've got the debates coming up. what do you do? how do you reposition yourself? >> i'll tell you something. i wouldn't know what to say. i would imagine if i was coaching mitt romney right now i would be trying to get him so buy as much media as possible if i got a commission from it. that's what i would be doing. >> eliot: may be that the media advisers are doing that. line their pockets but there's no way to victory. state after state you see the numbers -- he's down by 5 to 6 in iowa. wisconsin, colorado. he needs to sweep these states to see a transition of that sort almost unheard of, absent a gaffe from the president. this president whatever you may say, he doesn't make gaffes. >> he is very, very disciplined and again it doesn't make sense. campaign reflecting the candidate, obama certainly has. very disciplined. very focused. they were talking about ground game of second to none. they were touting that even as romney was out raising them early in the race. obama people are able to talk about how they've gotten efficient. it will be tough for romney to com
you've got the debates coming up. what do you do? how do you reposition yourself? >> i'll tell you something. i wouldn't know what to say. i would imagine if i was coaching mitt romney right now i would be trying to get him so buy as much media as possible if i got a commission from it. that's what i would be doing. >> eliot: may be that the media advisers are doing that. line their pockets but there's no way to victory. state after state you see the numbers -- he's down by 5 to 6...
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but the first visceral reaction i had was that romney did himself some good in this debate. i'm strongly supporting president obama, and i think he is going to win, but i don't think this was his best night. >> cenk: governor grandholm? [ laughter ] >> jennifer: i'm sad to say that i agree, and i really really am sad to say that i agree, because i so wanted to be wrong about thinking that romney was going to come out swinging. i think the president -- he was right on facts, but there were opportunities that were missed. so the not saying -- not hitting back on the $716 billion was a missed opportunity. i know the fact checkers -- >> al gore: and romney said it five times. >> cenk: or six times. >> jennifer: and there was stuff about cayman islands that would have been mentioned. all of that. but if you look at what is happening on line the fact checkers -- there is style versus substance. the fact checkers were going crazy because of romney's statements and failure to identify again which of the deductions that he would cut -- i mean his continual saying i will repeal and re
but the first visceral reaction i had was that romney did himself some good in this debate. i'm strongly supporting president obama, and i think he is going to win, but i don't think this was his best night. >> cenk: governor grandholm? [ laughter ] >> jennifer: i'm sad to say that i agree, and i really really am sad to say that i agree, because i so wanted to be wrong about thinking that romney was going to come out swinging. i think the president -- he was right on facts, but...
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ann romney said when mitt romney goes out for one of these debates, he writes dad at the top of the -- kind of touching seriously, i thought. it was nice. but i would immediately write down the five or six key points they wanted to be sure to try to work in somehow. because you can't take any prepared materials in there with you, but you can remember the things that you walk on stage with, and get them down in a hurry. >> cenk: or if you can't remember them, you write them in your head like sarah palin did. >> al gore: michelle obama -- this is their 20th wedding anniversary and she said she was going to make him write on his palm love you honey or something. >> eliot: this is a great way for mitt romney to show a human. >> jennifer: yeah. >> cenk: jennifer did you have zingers? >> jennifer: absolutely. i wanted to ask the vice president looking at these backgrounds and podiums, doesn't it make your stomach clench? >> al gore: no, i found them exciting and enjoyable in the same way i played a football game. >> jennifer: interesting. i didn't feel that way. i thought they were very har
ann romney said when mitt romney goes out for one of these debates, he writes dad at the top of the -- kind of touching seriously, i thought. it was nice. but i would immediately write down the five or six key points they wanted to be sure to try to work in somehow. because you can't take any prepared materials in there with you, but you can remember the things that you walk on stage with, and get them down in a hurry. >> cenk: or if you can't remember them, you write them in your head...
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obama an 11-point debate margin over romney in a public policy poll. those swing state voters also favored the president by 6 points when they were asked who they planned to support. the big sur prices last night for much of the debate, mitt romney seemed more concerned with obscuring the differences between his prospective foreign policies and the president's record than bringing them out. this including afghanistan syria and israel. >> obama: we're now able to transition out of afghanistan in a responsible way making sure that afghans take responsibility for their own security. >> romney: we're going to be finished by 2014 and when i'm president, we'll make sure we bring our troops back by the end of 2014. >> obama: syrians will have to determine their own future. and so everything we're doing we're doing in consultation with our partners in the region. >> romney: the right course for us is working through our partners and own resources to identify responsible parties within syria organize them, bring them together in a form of -- if not government,
obama an 11-point debate margin over romney in a public policy poll. those swing state voters also favored the president by 6 points when they were asked who they planned to support. the big sur prices last night for much of the debate, mitt romney seemed more concerned with obscuring the differences between his prospective foreign policies and the president's record than bringing them out. this including afghanistan syria and israel. >> obama: we're now able to transition out of...
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is going to have to confront in the debates when barack obama looks at him and said it was good when you passed it, your lodging is right, now you're running from it. i have a theory. mitt romney would have been done to embrace it saying it was our idea, it was right i'm better than you on the economy and embrace it. >> as a conservative, we have a federal system. and the federal system gives to the rights to the federal government. the rest belongs to the states. >> eliot: that issue has not been resolved with chief justice roberts who disagrees with you on that. >> it's a tax. let barack obama run it as a tax. >> eliot: but mitt romney had to embrace it as a tax because he did, too. boris epstein daily caller contributor and former mccain-palin aide, thank you for coming to the program. >> thanks for having me. >> eliot: repeal and replace the affordable healthcare act if romney wins in november. but mcconnell did not have an answer when asked if repeal and replace would include coverage for 50 million americans without health insurance. >> that is not the issue. the issue is how c
is going to have to confront in the debates when barack obama looks at him and said it was good when you passed it, your lodging is right, now you're running from it. i have a theory. mitt romney would have been done to embrace it saying it was our idea, it was right i'm better than you on the economy and embrace it. >> as a conservative, we have a federal system. and the federal system gives to the rights to the federal government. the rest belongs to the states. >> eliot: that...
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just a few hours before the debates started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet -- >> john: exactly. >> al gore: and you only have a few hours to adjust -- >> jennifer: that's interesting. [overlapping speakers] >> cenk: one quick thing here. i just came from l.a. the same day. i drank two cups of coffee. >> john: the first time i ever did stand up in denver i had the same effect. it makes you drawn and off. the president has an off night. >> jennifer: but tell me a good answer. >> john: i agree with jenks i think he explained voucherism better than ever. >> eliot: i think the substance of that transwould read well in a transcript -- >> jennifer: give me something good. come on eliot. >> eliot: he spoke to his wife with no passion. [ laughter ] >> eliot: that was the only moment when i saw in his eyes the energy and caring that got him elected president -- >> jennifer: what about when he quoted lincoln? >> eliot: it sounded old. >> cenk: all right. vice president gore what did he do right? >> al gore: well that was going to be my answer.
just a few hours before the debates started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet -- >> john: exactly. >> al gore: and you only have a few hours to adjust -- >> jennifer: that's interesting. [overlapping speakers] >> cenk: one quick thing here. i just came from l.a. the same day. i drank two cups of coffee. >> john: the first time i ever did stand up in denver i had the same effect. it makes you drawn and off. the president has an off...
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the debate was a victory of mitt romney's stylistic shift. so to that extent it has been successful. and it is ironic that it bucks his sort of core direction -- i mean the way he sort of carries himself, and has politically for years. >> eliot: ken nobody is disputing the effectiveness. i'm not disputing that mitt romney put on a performance any politician would be proud of. what i'm questioning at this point is whether there is enough of a core for the public to grasp over the next several weeks so they feel comfortable that they actually know who he is. and i think tricia that's what you are refuting. >> yeah. the people who can best gain traction from are the people who want to believe there's a kind gentle, conservative they can vote for. so i do think there's a little vulnerability there, but i don't think it is going to change people who were already voting for obama. >> eliot: we do have to come back to the debate for a moment because i think the president's performance of that debate fit unfortunately so neatly but the president put
the debate was a victory of mitt romney's stylistic shift. so to that extent it has been successful. and it is ironic that it bucks his sort of core direction -- i mean the way he sort of carries himself, and has politically for years. >> eliot: ken nobody is disputing the effectiveness. i'm not disputing that mitt romney put on a performance any politician would be proud of. what i'm questioning at this point is whether there is enough of a core for the public to grasp over the next...
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ann romney. >> who do you think won the debate between ann romney and michelle obama last night? >> i had have to say michelle obama. she did a lot better. her speech was more drafted in. you know, more finely well cut. >> the last person is going to get tough on china is that guy romney. for god's sakes romney was assembled in beijing. >> they talked about a lot of things but everybody knew that mitt had one ace in the hole. libya gate. romney and his running mate have been hammering the president over this cover-up for weeks. >> that's not what we do. that's not what i do as president. that's not what i do as commander in chief. [ laughter ] >> who do you think won the debate last night between ann romney and michelle obama? >> definitely ann romney. i think she's very classy and a wonderful lady. >> was there anything she said during the debate in particular? >> no. i just like how she looks. >> i hate to say this on fox i hope i will be allowed to leave here alive but i don't think there's any way we can gut spending and not -- to make a meaningful difference, we're going to
ann romney. >> who do you think won the debate between ann romney and michelle obama last night? >> i had have to say michelle obama. she did a lot better. her speech was more drafted in. you know, more finely well cut. >> the last person is going to get tough on china is that guy romney. for god's sakes romney was assembled in beijing. >> they talked about a lot of things but everybody knew that mitt had one ace in the hole. libya gate. romney and his running mate have...
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be fair to romney he had a really good moment in the debate. talking about the last four years. this is where he made his best case for his candidacy. >> romney: i can tell if you were to elect president obama you know what you're going to get. you're going to get a repeat of the last four years. he said by now we would have unemployment at 5.4%. the difference between where it is now and 5.4%. is 9 million americans out of work. he said by now he would put forward a plan to reform medicare and social security because he pointed out they're on the road to bankruptcy. he would reform them. he hasn't even made a proposal on either one. he said in his first year he would put together an immigration plan that would deal with our immigration challenges. didn't even file it. he said that he would cut in half the deficit. he hasn't done that either. in fact, he doubled it. >> cenk: the economy has not improved as much as we would want it, this is romney's main line of attack. he did it fairly effectively. did he lie in there? of course he's mitt romne
be fair to romney he had a really good moment in the debate. talking about the last four years. this is where he made his best case for his candidacy. >> romney: i can tell if you were to elect president obama you know what you're going to get. you're going to get a repeat of the last four years. he said by now we would have unemployment at 5.4%. the difference between where it is now and 5.4%. is 9 million americans out of work. he said by now he would put forward a plan to reform...
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romney won the first debate by a larger margin, right? but president obama clearly won the second debate, and yet you hear mixed -- >> eliot: cenk i don't think you are focusing on what i said. the first half of the debate, the president clearly won. the second part of the debate, which is what the public cares about. the president then lapsed back into his discourse which isn't as persuasive about how we have made progress but are not there yet. >> al gore: i think we ought to do post debate analysis on the debate between cenk and eliot. [ laughter ] >> cenk: all right. we have to take a really quick debate, but when we come back, more analysis on where the president scored specifically. by communications workers of america. bringing jobs home now. rich, chewy caramel rolled up in smooth milk chocolate. don't forget about that payroll meeting. rolo.get your smooth on. also in minis. (vo) always outspoken, now unleashed, joy behar. >> on my next show, the panel and i will try to find the humor in today's political climate. think we'll hav
romney won the first debate by a larger margin, right? but president obama clearly won the second debate, and yet you hear mixed -- >> eliot: cenk i don't think you are focusing on what i said. the first half of the debate, the president clearly won. the second part of the debate, which is what the public cares about. the president then lapsed back into his discourse which isn't as persuasive about how we have made progress but are not there yet. >> al gore: i think we ought to do...
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>> he made it clear in the debate john roberts is ideal for a supreme court nominee and then john roberts comes out a decision he doesn't agree with and all of a sudden, this is a guy i don't want on the supreme court when the american people could come to the conclusion john roberts decided on this issue on the question of congress's ability to tax something, a behavior they don't like that they have the right to do that. doesn't mean's guys but -- agrees but it isn't the wrong thing to do. where does mitt romney come down on doing things on principle? it could be purely political. >> eliot: mitt romney is beginning to look unprincipled and devoid of the leadership qualities that we want in a president. george w. bush whom we rarely invoke for anything positive, at least had a clarity of thought so people said we know what he thinks. and the rap on john kerry in '04 was the flip-flopping. >> romney is just following -- the weird thing is he's still having to play so much to his base. his entire base had the same 180 on roberts as well. so he's gotta go out there and he still for some rea
>> he made it clear in the debate john roberts is ideal for a supreme court nominee and then john roberts comes out a decision he doesn't agree with and all of a sudden, this is a guy i don't want on the supreme court when the american people could come to the conclusion john roberts decided on this issue on the question of congress's ability to tax something, a behavior they don't like that they have the right to do that. doesn't mean's guys but -- agrees but it isn't the wrong thing to...
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you can cap deductions for individuals and mitt romney debate idea, eliminate specific loopholes or raise marginal rates. any indication which of those three they might support and if there are enough votes within their conference on the house side to vote for any of those ideas? >> hard to say. they're not saying very much specific as you just're certainly not saying much specific about what they want in return for increased revenues. what exact entitlement cuts they want. they may be saying something privately but they're not saying anything publicly. you know i think that obama obviously wants the marginal rates increased. he's really kind of drawing a line in the sand on that. a few republicans tom cole is the most notable one but a couple more today, i noticed came out and said they think their party should consider that. if we get a drip, drip, drip on that, a few a day a few a week, then maybe maybe there will be a chance by the end of december that enough republicans will go for that increase. remember, it doesn't have to be a huge number of republicans. it just has to be 25 or so
you can cap deductions for individuals and mitt romney debate idea, eliminate specific loopholes or raise marginal rates. any indication which of those three they might support and if there are enough votes within their conference on the house side to vote for any of those ideas? >> hard to say. they're not saying very much specific as you just're certainly not saying much specific about what they want in return for increased revenues. what exact entitlement cuts they want. they may be...
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president obama was pulling away from mitt romney then he flopped in the most lopsided debate of all times. and now the policy poll shows a two point lead for mitt romney. >> so even wealthy people -- would you put a cap on how much they could deduct for example as far as charitable contributes are concerned? because i have heard you mention the $17,000 cap if you will for come folks out there and i would like you to elaborate if you don't mind. >> i don't intend to lay out a piece of legislation here because i intend to work with congress. >> eliot: members of congress are already trying to form a plan of their own to avoid the upcoming fiscal cliff. on tuesday eight senator convened at george washington's mount vernon estate to try to get a deal. one of them was chuck schumer. today he challenged a premise this tax rates at the top should come down. >> it would be a huge mistake to take the dollars we gain from closing loopholes and put them into reducing rates for the highest income brackets rather than into reducing the deficit. the reality is any path forward on tax reform that
president obama was pulling away from mitt romney then he flopped in the most lopsided debate of all times. and now the policy poll shows a two point lead for mitt romney. >> so even wealthy people -- would you put a cap on how much they could deduct for example as far as charitable contributes are concerned? because i have heard you mention the $17,000 cap if you will for come folks out there and i would like you to elaborate if you don't mind. >> i don't intend to lay out a piece...
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that mitt romney cut for any senate candidate has been for richard mourdock. that is now airing across indiana. the dnc has taken out an ad counter to that ad saying, look what mitt romney supports. politically there is an opportunity, certainly for the democrats. but i do think the questions have to be asked. eliot, there is one other thing that is important in this, the other local question. if you have mitt romney's position and say he appoints justices who reverse roe versus wade and so you have got half of the states controlled by republican governors and republican house and senate members so abortion is made illegal in those states, even with exceptions for rape and incest, what does this mean? if you're a woman who gets raped, now you want to apply for the exception, do you have to go before a rape panel to prove that you were raped? do you have to prove you were a victim of incest? how long does that take? and by that point isn't it too late? the logical extension of these positions leads you to an i will illogical conclusion, one so extreme that this
that mitt romney cut for any senate candidate has been for richard mourdock. that is now airing across indiana. the dnc has taken out an ad counter to that ad saying, look what mitt romney supports. politically there is an opportunity, certainly for the democrats. but i do think the questions have to be asked. eliot, there is one other thing that is important in this, the other local question. if you have mitt romney's position and say he appoints justices who reverse roe versus wade and so you...
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looking forward to the debate perhaps that's a chance for mitt romney to shift the focus. we're starting to see him try to make the case in a more empathetic way. this video that he cut recently this new ad where it's a straight to camera delivery. we're going to need to see more of that, but it's really a tough hill for him to climb because so much of the negative focus has been on him for so many weeks now. >> eliot: i think you are right, josh. and this is the -- the debates are his hail mary maybe he'll get some assist from some bad referees who will call the play the wrong way. what should he do to get the completion in the end zone? >> i think when the debates matter is when somebody makes a really big unforced error like gerald ford insisting there is no soviet domination of poland. the problem is the president is pretty good at this. so i think it will be very hard to draw the president into that, especially because romney's focus usually is not an aggressive debating style. >> eliot: he is more counterpuncher. >> right. >> eliot: and the superintendent a very cons
looking forward to the debate perhaps that's a chance for mitt romney to shift the focus. we're starting to see him try to make the case in a more empathetic way. this video that he cut recently this new ad where it's a straight to camera delivery. we're going to need to see more of that, but it's really a tough hill for him to climb because so much of the negative focus has been on him for so many weeks now. >> eliot: i think you are right, josh. and this is the -- the debates are his...
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and the vice presidential debate, when mitt romney or paul ryan is saying something that is not true. they need to call it out. that is not true. you do have a $5 trillion tax cut in your plans. you're not going to cover people's pre-existing conditions in your healthcare plan. you need to say it then and not rely on fax checkers the next day. >> eliot: you can't wait for the story the next day. ryan zerlina is right. you cannot depend upon that. how does the president need to do that,e vince this power and passion and sense of purpose that so clearly was missing. >> i think people want to see that he wants the job. that he wants to fight for them. if you look at it this way if somebody is looking at somebody who won't even stand up for themselves, then what are the chances they're thinking that this person is going to stand up for me? when you're watching obama in this debate you can finally see why it is that he was getting rolled day in and day out by the republicans on capitol hill. you can say hey man that is a guy i would like to be negotiating with. >> eliot: i'm going to inte
and the vice presidential debate, when mitt romney or paul ryan is saying something that is not true. they need to call it out. that is not true. you do have a $5 trillion tax cut in your plans. you're not going to cover people's pre-existing conditions in your healthcare plan. you need to say it then and not rely on fax checkers the next day. >> eliot: you can't wait for the story the next day. ryan zerlina is right. you cannot depend upon that. how does the president need to do that,e...
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according to a cnn poll, 67% of adults thought romney won the debate compared to just 25% who picked the president. 46% of undecided voters in a cbs poll gave the win to romney to just 22% for mr. obama. nearly a third of the undecideds were undecided. romney's positive rating rose above 50% for the first time in this campaign in a reuters poll. the president's ratings stayed unchanged at 56%. romney stayed on the attack even though his positions were to be charitable and flatly untrue. here's some of what he said about his tax plan and the economy. >> romney: i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. my view is we ought to provide tax relief to people in the middle class but i'm not going to reduce the share of taxes paid by high income people. we have 23 million people out of work. or stop look for work in this country. >> eliot: here's how the obama campaign responded to some of the claims. with an ad released this afternoon that relied on fact checkers. >> mitt romney has not laid out specifics for how he w
according to a cnn poll, 67% of adults thought romney won the debate compared to just 25% who picked the president. 46% of undecided voters in a cbs poll gave the win to romney to just 22% for mr. obama. nearly a third of the undecideds were undecided. romney's positive rating rose above 50% for the first time in this campaign in a reuters poll. the president's ratings stayed unchanged at 56%. romney stayed on the attack even though his positions were to be charitable and flatly untrue. here's...
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it is flattering to romney that he had this accomplishment at the same time romney has spent the last couple of years trying to get republicans to forget that he passed health care reform. i think this will be a debate he won't be able to avoid one the supreme court decision comes down on obamacare. it will be interesting to see the different contours of that debate. >> the supreme court decision whichever direction it goes puts the issue front and center again, but i can almost imagine the phone collapse parentally the two of them had a day or two ago. the president said hey code of silence, that health care bill was pretty good. >> they are looking forward to what the supreme court might do, and talking about provisions of health care reform that they would like to hold on to which is a complete new dimension. >> the danger to them is of course if you approve a few pieces of the health care you lose your coalition to overturn the entire thing. >> absolutely. >> switch gears for a minute. if you are barack obama how do you discussion solyndra? >> i don't know what the best answer is.
it is flattering to romney that he had this accomplishment at the same time romney has spent the last couple of years trying to get republicans to forget that he passed health care reform. i think this will be a debate he won't be able to avoid one the supreme court decision comes down on obamacare. it will be interesting to see the different contours of that debate. >> the supreme court decision whichever direction it goes puts the issue front and center again, but i can almost imagine...
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and we will win this debate. [ cheering ] >> eliot: winning that debate was easy for mitt romney. he just debated himself. >> romney: the president's plan cuts medicare--excuse me--well, let's see there we go. by $716 billion. cut. this is going to be a big issue in places where there are a lot of seniors. >> eliot: that was the etch etch-a-sketch in action erasing his words. >> the president's affordable care act according to the aarp an independent voice that seniors value and take seriously strengthens and protect medicare medicare. according to the aarp, the republican plan, the ryan plan, the romney plan undermines medicare. >> eliot: meanwhile, a group calling itself the special opposite rations education fund has released a video that tries to undermine one of president obama's signal achievements, the raid that killed osama bin laden. >> mr. president, you did not kilo sam bin laden. america did. >> eliot: two points. one, the president has consistently given credit to military professionals who took part in the raid who killed killedbin-laden. and smith, who you just saw
and we will win this debate. [ cheering ] >> eliot: winning that debate was easy for mitt romney. he just debated himself. >> romney: the president's plan cuts medicare--excuse me--well, let's see there we go. by $716 billion. cut. this is going to be a big issue in places where there are a lot of seniors. >> eliot: that was the etch etch-a-sketch in action erasing his words. >> the president's affordable care act according to the aarp an independent voice that seniors...
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even though the debate, it did not stop the romney people from saying we feel really good. we think we have this. we think we're on the verge of 305 electoral votes so on and so forth. that was nine days ago. two days ago--two days ago his campaign had a conference call with political reporters to persuade them that the race wasn't over. they were still in it, they had a shot, and they felt pretty good about it. in seven days they went from this race is over to wait, no the rate isn't over. that's what sandy did. >> eliot: the reason for that was because sandy was the perfect metaphor you need a government to come in and do certain things a government that is smart capable, driven by people who believe in its purpose and mission and it evoked the images of katrina which is the worst metaphor for mitt romney. and i think the president has surfed the wrong of this, and it's on the emotions of the public. >> yes, i don't think obama was trying to use it politically. i think he was trying to do thinks job. i think chris christie was trying to do his job. i also think that chris
even though the debate, it did not stop the romney people from saying we feel really good. we think we have this. we think we're on the verge of 305 electoral votes so on and so forth. that was nine days ago. two days ago--two days ago his campaign had a conference call with political reporters to persuade them that the race wasn't over. they were still in it, they had a shot, and they felt pretty good about it. in seven days they went from this race is over to wait, no the rate isn't over....
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which is frankly why i think that romney might win that first debate in the media. obviously i want the president to win but it's not going to happen because the media does not want a lopsided election. they don't want it to be over by next wednesday. so if somehow the media does declare that obama is the winner that first debate, i will set aside my tigers mug for a white sox one for one show only. that's it. that's my bet and i'm not even going to mean it. but romney's obama is a liar strategy, it only works if the media doesn't notice that romney is lying during the debates himself. maybe one thing that the media likes less than a lopsided race is a hypocrite so it is risky for romney to raise the strategy. since his whole candidacy has been built upon the lies, it is one thing he does pretty well, the strategy of focusing on lies could get him hoisted. maybe i'll go order a stupid white sox mug just in case but i'm not going to like it. up next, it's been four years since president obama has been in a televised debate. he's about to start cramming for his first
which is frankly why i think that romney might win that first debate in the media. obviously i want the president to win but it's not going to happen because the media does not want a lopsided election. they don't want it to be over by next wednesday. so if somehow the media does declare that obama is the winner that first debate, i will set aside my tigers mug for a white sox one for one show only. that's it. that's my bet and i'm not even going to mean it. but romney's obama is a liar...
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recall the "me too" foreign policy debate where romney merely parroted every answer that president obama gave? we all acknowledge that many regions in the world really are a mess with the middle east leading the pack right now. hamas is raining rockets down in israel with predictable and appropriate response, and iran is marching forward with its nuclear enrichment process getting awfully close to whatever red lines have been drawn publicly or privately. simply stating that we need to get the middle east peace process backs on track is too vapid an answer. while i do like the idea of sending bill clinton back to see if the talks can be revived the movement simply may not be propitious, for the broader agreement beyond seeking a cease-fire to the current fireworks there are too many moving pieces of and deep seated hostilities that need to be resolveed. with appropriate encourages egypt could join turkey with is mod raid islamic nation helping us thread a needle in this tortured region. this is where real diplomacy is needed not theatrics by disappointed republicans. let's go back to that
recall the "me too" foreign policy debate where romney merely parroted every answer that president obama gave? we all acknowledge that many regions in the world really are a mess with the middle east leading the pack right now. hamas is raining rockets down in israel with predictable and appropriate response, and iran is marching forward with its nuclear enrichment process getting awfully close to whatever red lines have been drawn publicly or privately. simply stating that we need to...
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the best venue in which do to it is to do it is the debate itself. does he have to get more aggressive. >> i think he needs to get his hands around the fundamental issues of the campaign. mitt romney, someone who lived under his barely distinguishable leadership pit pit is a preposterous public figure. it's absurd that four years after the financial sector almost burned down the world that one of our major political parties would elect mitt romney for president. it's absurd that the principle reason for his candidacy for six months was running away from all the good he did in massachusetts. and it's preposterous to believe that he suddenly made this turn to the middle for any other reason but naked political expediency. he's a ridiculous figure on many levels. unless the president is willing to illustrate that, he'll continue to be. >> eliot: charles, i agree with every one of the statements you just made. but my question to you then is why can he and how can he survive in our political arena? is there nobody out there calling out these misreputation
the best venue in which do to it is to do it is the debate itself. does he have to get more aggressive. >> i think he needs to get his hands around the fundamental issues of the campaign. mitt romney, someone who lived under his barely distinguishable leadership pit pit is a preposterous public figure. it's absurd that four years after the financial sector almost burned down the world that one of our major political parties would elect mitt romney for president. it's absurd that the...
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the public wants specifics from mitt romney. he was pushed a little bit on "60 minutes." he didn't bend there at all. will he make it through the debates when he is asked point blank to give us an answer? >> i don't know why he changes an answer a week later a high pro file interview on "60 minutes" to a very high profile debate. he -- there also some fear here. because some group will start to say, wait a minute this is not what we like. >> that's right. waste, fraud, and abuse, we have to get rid of those. >> eliot: i have been been in politicked -- you always want to do it. we should do it. but it's not even relevant. it's like dick army or grover norquist coming on and saying we're going to balance the budget by eliminating funding for npr. [ laughter ] >> eliot: so -- so -- but, you know, give mitt romney credit he has had the fortitude not to give us an answer. >> he is getting away with it so far. stuff like that is not what moves -- that's what -- people like you and me really care about that. does the general public rea
the public wants specifics from mitt romney. he was pushed a little bit on "60 minutes." he didn't bend there at all. will he make it through the debates when he is asked point blank to give us an answer? >> i don't know why he changes an answer a week later a high pro file interview on "60 minutes" to a very high profile debate. he -- there also some fear here. because some group will start to say, wait a minute this is not what we like. >> that's right. waste,...
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some people say he started the bleeding of paul ryan and mitt romney but i think his job in the debate is to end last week for the obama-biden campaign. first i want to ask you, do you think he was able to accomplish that. >> i think he did. he certainly did that last night. he changed the narrative. whether or not the administration was back on its heels, afraid or unable to engage unable to loosen up and take it to the other side, we saw that and more. interestingly enough we have a retroactive answer to why the president last week may be seemed a little stiff, maybe didn't seem so jovial. didn't loosen up and try to engage mitt romney. as we saw last night it can be jarring. not everybody liked it. >> that's something i want to ask you thomas frank this style, are we reading too much into it or did it matter a lot last night. >> it's a vice presidential debate, so by definition it did not matter a whole lot. i tell you, i had two really different reactions to it. i read the debate before i came to the studio. i read the transcription of the debate and i agreed with joe biden on almo
some people say he started the bleeding of paul ryan and mitt romney but i think his job in the debate is to end last week for the obama-biden campaign. first i want to ask you, do you think he was able to accomplish that. >> i think he did. he certainly did that last night. he changed the narrative. whether or not the administration was back on its heels, afraid or unable to engage unable to loosen up and take it to the other side, we saw that and more. interestingly enough we have a...
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i read that romney is hauling in for the debate. he wants deregulation and benefits for the .01%. you're seeing that happen, and the tea party is willing to sit back and be quiet because they want to a winning candidate. >> eliot: they've made a fundamental pragmatic decision as they saw the campaign slipping away from them. >> we've seen this before in the republican party where you have a candidate who may not pay allegiance lip service to the movement conservatives, the movement right, the movement extremists but they want to win. you know what i think? i think we play an important role the media--not left will be right but accountability truth-telling, watchdog media needs to make clear to the american people what mitt romney and paul ryan's policies are on medicare healthcare. >> eliot: i think all that have is correct. but it runs a little deeper than that. there is a basic goodness to the american public. a sense of where mitt romney was going in the convection, the 47% video which incapsulated everything that the public didn't like. the public woke up and they ran away fro
i read that romney is hauling in for the debate. he wants deregulation and benefits for the .01%. you're seeing that happen, and the tea party is willing to sit back and be quiet because they want to a winning candidate. >> eliot: they've made a fundamental pragmatic decision as they saw the campaign slipping away from them. >> we've seen this before in the republican party where you have a candidate who may not pay allegiance lip service to the movement conservatives, the movement...
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>>join the debate now. >> eliot: on the day that president obama's favorite banker testified on call toll hill. mitt romney by a money slide including to politico's sec filings, mitt romney's campaign of the super pac supporting it raising $37.1 million from financial sector donaries. obama and his super pac have raised $4.8 million. that massive disparity leaves 19 major donors to obama's 2008 campaign who have now sweeped allegiances. here to exam obama's shrinking wall street donors,. >> henry bl odget. >> when he steps back from it, he has been so kid glove in his treatment of wall street. they're bigger, more powerful. no meaningful reform. he has done nothing but to offend them. >> eliot: but i want to be more cynical than that. i thought there was a transaction there that they both understood. i'll call a few names but give you what you want. you can pretend to be upset but you'll support me in the long run. didn't they get this was the sophisticated way to play the game. >> if that's the way it has worked out they have shifted allegiance. they don't even want to be bashed. >>
>>join the debate now. >> eliot: on the day that president obama's favorite banker testified on call toll hill. mitt romney by a money slide including to politico's sec filings, mitt romney's campaign of the super pac supporting it raising $37.1 million from financial sector donaries. obama and his super pac have raised $4.8 million. that massive disparity leaves 19 major donors to obama's 2008 campaign who have now sweeped allegiances. here to exam obama's shrinking wall street...
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but in debates bring out romney romney's past quotes. >> i agree with you, penny they should focus on what romney had said casting doubt about the wisdom of actions and decisions that clearly were right but there are two separate issues. establishing that president obama had the guts and fortitude doing something difficult. t.v. as a politicalsteve, as a political matter should they separate them. >> i think the surge in afghanistan was the wrong call by president obama. but when you look at what he had at stake, how he made the decision ed gillispie's comment is very interesting. had i been advising president obamapresidentbush, i would not have gone into iraq. they took their eyes off the ball with bin laden and squeezed out the resources and gone after iraq. it cost the united states 3 trillion-dollar. you still have a nest there today and you left osama bin laden and his movement to metastasize around the world for the next administration to clean up. it's very interesting when you look at these important historical choices they do have consequences. it's not always clear which wa
but in debates bring out romney romney's past quotes. >> i agree with you, penny they should focus on what romney had said casting doubt about the wisdom of actions and decisions that clearly were right but there are two separate issues. establishing that president obama had the guts and fortitude doing something difficult. t.v. as a politicalsteve, as a political matter should they separate them. >> i think the surge in afghanistan was the wrong call by president obama. but when...
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. >> eliot: so how did last night's debate affect florida voters? it is still listed, florida that is, in a tossup category. although it seems to be leaning toward mitt romney right now. do you think the president made any ground up last night? >> i think he certainly did. look, he seemed like the president. he seemed like the president of the united states in full grasp of the fact. mitt romney seemed like somebody with 15 minutes of material trying to spread it out over 45 minutes. he seem to have this wonderful gift to string together words that mean nothing. i wrote down a couple of them as i was watching with my family. first answer, we need a comprehensive and robust strategy and we need to coordinate with our friends to address the rising tide of tumult. what does that mean? how can somebody who claim to be the president and give out vacuous nonsense like that? >> eliot: let me ask you this. there's no question that over the last several weeks florida has been moving toward mitt romney. what do you ascribe that to? the unemployment rate there
. >> eliot: so how did last night's debate affect florida voters? it is still listed, florida that is, in a tossup category. although it seems to be leaning toward mitt romney right now. do you think the president made any ground up last night? >> i think he certainly did. look, he seemed like the president. he seemed like the president of the united states in full grasp of the fact. mitt romney seemed like somebody with 15 minutes of material trying to spread it out over 45...
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i love romney -- first of all romney called the president a liar presumptively before the debate began. he is going to lie like my five sons. >> what? >> stephanie: yeah, i don't understand that. tomorrow rob reiner sexy liberal john fugelsang tomorrow. >> we got him tomorrow. and the guy who is running against michele bachmann in minnesota. >> stephanie: jim graves who is awesome. there is a chance to finally take out that [ censor bleep ] bachmann. >> marcus will be livid! >> stephanie: i'll get -- you know what, i need a stylist. i'll hire marcus. >> yes. >> stephanie: that's it for us. we'll see you tomorrow on the "stephanie miller show." ♪ >>> i'm jacki schechner. the boss is stepping out on stage and on line in support of president obama. bruce spring steen is appearing at an event with bill clinton in ohio, and will attend another one in aims, iowa. he has posted a message, explaining the president has had a rough ride but he has been able to do a great many things. he cites the president's work at home, like passing health care at home, rescuing the auto industry, and his wo
i love romney -- first of all romney called the president a liar presumptively before the debate began. he is going to lie like my five sons. >> what? >> stephanie: yeah, i don't understand that. tomorrow rob reiner sexy liberal john fugelsang tomorrow. >> we got him tomorrow. and the guy who is running against michele bachmann in minnesota. >> stephanie: jim graves who is awesome. there is a chance to finally take out that [ censor bleep ] bachmann. >> marcus will...
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of the ninth inning for mitt romney, will they shift this campaign in a meaningful way. >> the debates are important. i'm not going to make a prediction for you. >> eliot: oh, come on. >> i have a policy against that, but one thing we've seen about romney in the primaries is that people have forgotten because it's been awhile, he is a very good debater. this is something that the obama campaign is talking about a lot because they want to raise expectations for him. it's true, and it's true that the president has not debated in four years. he may an little rusty. we know both of them are prepping and preparing and for romney especially, he has got to know now that his back is up against the wall, and this is sort of his last chance for real game changer. i think you'll see him come very very prepared. what i think both of these guys have in common that is going to be interesting dynamic during the debates is this tendency to get a little bit irritated to let someone get under their skin. so you may see both of them trying to bait each other and brang out those flashes of very unattracti
of the ninth inning for mitt romney, will they shift this campaign in a meaningful way. >> the debates are important. i'm not going to make a prediction for you. >> eliot: oh, come on. >> i have a policy against that, but one thing we've seen about romney in the primaries is that people have forgotten because it's been awhile, he is a very good debater. this is something that the obama campaign is talking about a lot because they want to raise expectations for him. it's true,...
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he said that after the debate. there was nobody could say that mitt romney won that debate. mark halprin was wrong. here he is this morning on good morning america paul ryan. >> the reason i think mitt romney won this debate is america again. >> bill: oh, shut up, i don't want to hear it. get out of here. [ laughter ] >> bill: come on, geeze, you know my little puppy here on the leash peter, right. >> it's pathetic. you can say he put on a good showing. >> bill: you can say he didn't step on his boom too bad. >> you can say that. it's not true. >> bill: he did not win the debate. >> we have someone who wrote in saying if they gave a name to last night's debate, they would call it atlas flub. we asked for other ideas. paul says atlas scrub could be another one. michael peterson says how obama got his groove back. @bark whey says mittens meltdown. >> bash, return of the jedi, because obama was definitely back in form. >> bill: yeah, he was. the force. >> the force was strong with him last night. >> bill: gary calling from the good state of mississippi what do you think? >> cal
he said that after the debate. there was nobody could say that mitt romney won that debate. mark halprin was wrong. here he is this morning on good morning america paul ryan. >> the reason i think mitt romney won this debate is america again. >> bill: oh, shut up, i don't want to hear it. get out of here. [ laughter ] >> bill: come on, geeze, you know my little puppy here on the leash peter, right. >> it's pathetic. you can say he put on a good showing. >> bill:...